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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.31 06:18:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:300M/1300=230,770 ISK.
Why don't you put it up again if its so meager and your're so sure of PRO, after all everyone else beside PFB would struggle for it right?
Awful quiet all of sudden....chirp chirp chirp. I would assume it's because if they WIN, they win what is for them "pocket lint". If they LOSE some other corp who would struggle making that kind of money gets what is, for them, a big payday. The risk/reward doesn't make sense from their perspective. You mean potentially crippling us, or humbling us, or putting us in our place, or simply demonstrating that Joe's Legendary FPS skills can turn the tides of battle aren't reason enough? Man you really should encourage your "friend"(lapdog seems more appropriate) to stay off forums and let damage control be handled by the real leaders of your organization. You can talk about risk/reward seems to me im not the one making statements and unwilling to put ISK on the line to back them up What makes you think anyone cares whether you get "humbled" or not? I agree with you that Joe seems to enjoy being flippant and irritating some of you little specialized corps, but I find it entertaining. The reality is, when it comes down to 8v8, at best, any 1 corp vs another is gonna basically be a 50/50 coin flip sort of situation. That's best case scenario. The best pro could hope for is to get their very best guys online and fighting your best, but the difference in corp makeup/approach means that even with that scenario, you guys will have the advantage. Your corp is so small that your guys at this point are much more prepared for very small specialized battles. That's your territory and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise. Why would a good leader wage a battle that's pitched in favor of the opponent? I doubt you guys would be willing to fight PRO at 15 simultaneous battles for 20 MIL each, would you?
why do u always resort to zergin as a defense? 
no one will have 15 timers running the exact same time so idk why u keep bringing up zergin to justify some of ur points on large corps
the fights wont get much bigger than 24v24/32v32 per match imho because this isnt EVE
and in a fps if u are waiting 10-30mins just to get a fight then ppl will go play another game.
Look @ MAG.
also a single grp of 16 can defend multiple districts, now say in IMPs case they field 3 teams of 16 + when u factor in allies which IMP got IE for and if they field 3 teams of 16 thats 6 teams of 16 during the day and id say thats a solid number for a 24hr period considering their skill lvl and size of their alliance. If they were to get bigger then they wont ever need to match PROs #s they just need to properly manage their timers and teams to cover a 12-24hr period.
Size isnt everything, especially when ur just recruiting any and everyone into ur corp to build #s
So 15 simulataneous battles will NEVER happen unless said corp/alliance sets their timers to do so and that will only happen if said grp has the numbers to do it.
PRO can go ahead and set 15 timers simultaneously but is that smart? no it isnt because while they may have some decent players buried under the pile of mediocrity having 15 battles running at once means its open season and some districts will fall because chances are ALOT of the scrub players are gonna be on those matches whereas proper timer management can ensure u get proper teams setup with enough SKILL to actually be able to hold ****.
PROs #s atm are just extremely good for corp donations which keep them well funded. They wont need to even do anything big in PC since they can make ALOT of ISK just pubbin and if every member of their 1600 donates 1M a day thats 1.6B ISK per day.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.31 13:28:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Mavado, the first system being opened up will have 250 districts, and that's just one small portion of the star map. If you want to hold even a single system you're going to need to set timers for 250 districts. That's over 10 timers per hour. Maybe other corps have no intention of actually holding a decent amount of Sov, and thus they wont need 100s of guys on at all times, that's their prerogative. That doesn't mean other corps don't have bigger ambitions.
Goes back to the point others keep making
Sure u will be able to hold alot but whats the point if u dont have the skill to maintain anything and ppl just farm u?
At some point ppl will HAVE to realise that SKILL will be a factor in MAINTAINING ur districts, just goin out and grabbin as much as possible wont mean nothing when u have smaller grps that would be like sharks just waiting for a smell of blood.
Remember ppl wont HAVE to hold the districts they capture they can sell them off and CCP plans to introduce that as a feature along with a merc marketplace. So nothing stoppin a newer grp who wants a little spot to call home from either goin out and taking one of the many districts PRO might earn but also nothing stoppin them from hiring a merc grp to grab some land for them
Baal Roo wrote:
Your assumption seems to be that the corps that are populated mostly by closed beta FPS veterans will somehow continue to improve to the same degree as a corp consisting mostly of players who have been playing for a few weeks. I'm not at all convinced that this is a good assumption to make. It's going to come down to their ability to organize long term, as well as how the game ends up being designed. Just because someone is new now, doesn't mean they will be new forever.
As someone who has run FPS clans for a while i can tell u bad players will not magically improve when their have a bad person teaching them. So again its kool PRO wants large numbers nothing wrong with that but when ur mentors are bad at the game as well the ppl they teaching will also be bad and stay bad.
Baal Roo wrote:
The bravado of some of these corps is fairly amusing. I think they actually believe that their corps are packed full of hundreds of MLG FPS gods. It's honestly kind of cute.
I've been around a long time here, and I've seen most of these "big name" guys play, and I've watched their youtube videos. They're above average FPS players, that's all. Becoming an above average FPS player in game requires basically one thing: experience. The more you play, the closer you're going to get to their level. In the next year most of them are, at best, going to get incrementally better. Afterall, it's just an FPS, it's not exactly rocket science. It's a fairly straightforward sort of skillset. I don't say that to be an *******, but let's be realistic here. It's fun to poke and prod each other on these forums, but when the rubber actually hits the road and people are playing the final game, surely they know all of this.
It's clear it's why you guys get so much hate. The implications of what you are doing ruins their little gamer fantasies that they've constructed.
Oh by no means are we MLG FPS gods we arent even decent 
but yea i find it amusing that u think FPS are soooooooo simple that simple experience is enough to make u very good at it.
If that were true then why after 3 years of MAG is PRO still bad at MAG?
No offense to PRO or anything they do what they do but yea.
And to comment on ur last sentence the implications of what PRO does ruins nothing of mine. I neither care for it nor dwell on it. They do what they do and we do what we do, different ways each grp goes about their stuff. Me personally I just dont see how ppl can adopt the exact same methods as EVE and just think numbers will prevail but to each their own
Also last point and this is true in ANY FPS community....GOOD players like to play with GOOD ppl. Only so long before w/e good players that are in bad corps get tired of carrying ppl and move onto corps that more around their skill lvl. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.31 23:49:00 -
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Aegis Scientiafide wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Joe no respond. We can corp battle for 5mill  I really do not care. Joe I really don't buy this reason. There are so many easier ways to move corp funds. We all make mistakes. @ Cat Merc you are truly a Forum warrior and a good I might just point out. Now only if you used that time and effort on DUST you might actually be fun to play against. *Lastly any PRO member who feels they want to improve , or just want take their gaming to the next level. Please send me msg or apply. NF is always looking for new talent. Yes, all these corps preach quality over quantity, a small group of gamers over a swarm, yet they're always looking for new talent. Hmmm....
Keyword is TALENT.
Nothing wrong with having a large grp
these corps u mention just put QUALITY 1st over just increasing their numbers and lowering overall quality of the grp.
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.04.01 06:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:Story: http://tinyurl.com/blwntcnWe have reached out to the PFBHz, TEST and PRO. But any comments from those involved would be appreciated. Dusters Blog, where we take three lines of news, and expand it into a whole page of nonsense. Apparently, to transfer ISK you need to use a cruiser. I guess we never heard of the word bank?
well hes gotta stay "in character and in lore" to make it interesting
whereas tbqh i rea EN24 for the fights i really dont wanna read made up fantasy roleplay bs but alas thats the direction loldusters chose for their way of reporting on battles
our loss to STB was reported as our corp gettin robbed.......go figure........ |
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